Dec 22, 2022·edited Dec 22, 2022Liked by Robert Valenta
"This effort required a lot of team work and greatly benefited by the fact that most of our conspirators did not want to be on the board." Yes this is very true.
Excellent strategy outline for success!! Honesty, transparency, courage and virtue are the ingredients mandated by our creator that will produce a bountiful harvest for all involved. God bless Bob & Joe
Thank you for an excellent article. I have two things to add.
1: Nobody can keep you from associating with other members of the REC. We started having regular monthly meetings of Precinct Strategy members and those trying to join our REC beginning over a year ago. That's when things really started to happen. We talked to each other at the REC meetings (before and after) and invited people we knew to join us. By sharing information, we identified the ways the old regime was keeping new members from joining and actually encouraging activist members to quit. The meetings were NOT official REC meetings, so we could invite only those we wanted. I was told I wasn't allowed to do it and I had a district chair demand to be invited. I ignored them. At our meetings, we planned motions to make at meetings and met new America First candidates. We also helped build campaign teams for our candidates.
2: Try to avoid personal attacks. A separate group of activists from us have been engaging in particularly nasty attacks on those of us experiencing some success infiltrating the local party. The character assassinations, lies, smears, and mis-characterizations are damaging to everyone involved. Even when I agree with those guilty of this nastiness, I will not talk with them because they have established a pattern of attacking with no cause. There have been times they were treated with respect and helpfullness, but they turned and attacked and tried to make it look otherwise. I don't know that any of us will ever be able to work with those attack dogs. Now some of them appear to be working with the old establishment.
I am currently in a dispute with my local REC and need advice. One of the elements of my dispute is the local Chair's insistence that motions be provided to him in advance. He NEVER opens the floor for motions unless it's things he has like approving minutes, financial reports, etc. I do not feel members are required to submit motions to him in advance and at Tuesday night's REC meeting he shut down my attempt to offer a motion. When I have read the RINO HUNTER posts, you continually refer to "resolutions". It is my belief that "resolutions" and "motions" are two different things. Both the RPOF Constitution and the County Model Constitution address submission of RESOLUTIONS. Motions are not addressed in either document and, as such, fall under the authority of Roberts Rules of Order (for all issues not addressed in the Constitution and Rules). It is my contention that RESOLUTIONS and MOTIONS are two different things. In layman's terminology (and according to a previous RPOF Grievance Committee Chairman and current Rules Committee member), a RESOLUTION is an item of policy and the rules clearly state they must be submitted in advance, MOTIONS are an item of action, and may be made from the floor at any time. Item 4:4 of RRO presents a distinction between a resolution and a motion. RRO addresses making motions in many places and none of them specify advance notice, in fact, RRO makes clear motions are a right of the member and can be made at any time. Our Chairman's exact words when I attempted to make the motion were "a motion is not in order at this time". Keep in mind, this is an REC Chairman who has not produced an agenda in advance in at least 5 of the past 6-7 meetings and NEVER has New Business in the meeting. No agenda was produced on Tuesday evening, so there was no way to know what was coming. I am desperate for advice, responses, perspectives. I am pursuing answers from parliamentary experts also.
Thank you, Robert & Dr. J.
"This effort required a lot of team work and greatly benefited by the fact that most of our conspirators did not want to be on the board." Yes this is very true.
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Excellent strategy outline for success!! Honesty, transparency, courage and virtue are the ingredients mandated by our creator that will produce a bountiful harvest for all involved. God bless Bob & Joe
Wonderful. Thx for sharing!
Thank you for an excellent article. I have two things to add.
1: Nobody can keep you from associating with other members of the REC. We started having regular monthly meetings of Precinct Strategy members and those trying to join our REC beginning over a year ago. That's when things really started to happen. We talked to each other at the REC meetings (before and after) and invited people we knew to join us. By sharing information, we identified the ways the old regime was keeping new members from joining and actually encouraging activist members to quit. The meetings were NOT official REC meetings, so we could invite only those we wanted. I was told I wasn't allowed to do it and I had a district chair demand to be invited. I ignored them. At our meetings, we planned motions to make at meetings and met new America First candidates. We also helped build campaign teams for our candidates.
2: Try to avoid personal attacks. A separate group of activists from us have been engaging in particularly nasty attacks on those of us experiencing some success infiltrating the local party. The character assassinations, lies, smears, and mis-characterizations are damaging to everyone involved. Even when I agree with those guilty of this nastiness, I will not talk with them because they have established a pattern of attacking with no cause. There have been times they were treated with respect and helpfullness, but they turned and attacked and tried to make it look otherwise. I don't know that any of us will ever be able to work with those attack dogs. Now some of them appear to be working with the old establishment.
I am currently in a dispute with my local REC and need advice. One of the elements of my dispute is the local Chair's insistence that motions be provided to him in advance. He NEVER opens the floor for motions unless it's things he has like approving minutes, financial reports, etc. I do not feel members are required to submit motions to him in advance and at Tuesday night's REC meeting he shut down my attempt to offer a motion. When I have read the RINO HUNTER posts, you continually refer to "resolutions". It is my belief that "resolutions" and "motions" are two different things. Both the RPOF Constitution and the County Model Constitution address submission of RESOLUTIONS. Motions are not addressed in either document and, as such, fall under the authority of Roberts Rules of Order (for all issues not addressed in the Constitution and Rules). It is my contention that RESOLUTIONS and MOTIONS are two different things. In layman's terminology (and according to a previous RPOF Grievance Committee Chairman and current Rules Committee member), a RESOLUTION is an item of policy and the rules clearly state they must be submitted in advance, MOTIONS are an item of action, and may be made from the floor at any time. Item 4:4 of RRO presents a distinction between a resolution and a motion. RRO addresses making motions in many places and none of them specify advance notice, in fact, RRO makes clear motions are a right of the member and can be made at any time. Our Chairman's exact words when I attempted to make the motion were "a motion is not in order at this time". Keep in mind, this is an REC Chairman who has not produced an agenda in advance in at least 5 of the past 6-7 meetings and NEVER has New Business in the meeting. No agenda was produced on Tuesday evening, so there was no way to know what was coming. I am desperate for advice, responses, perspectives. I am pursuing answers from parliamentary experts also.